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  • Re: compressor settings for drums

    Thom "Fig" Fiegle wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 12:43

    great drum sounds come from great sounding drums, and great drummers.


    I agree 100%!!! You'll get no argument from me on that.

    But as an engineer we all know that the gear used to record, process, transmit or otherwise tweak the sounds going through it makes a big difference. My SSL reference is only due to the fact that "The SSL 4000 Series console is the model that’s historically, mixed more hits than all other consoles combined... ever.” That's been proven.

    I do happen to like what the SSL does to a signal upon mixdown but I track through vintage Neve, API, Telefunken or other similar consoles and modules.

  • Re: "Best" overhead and/or hat mic choice for live?

    Shure KSM27 can be had on the used market for $200 each if you look carefully. They also make an excellent mic for guitar cabinets for guitarists with good tone.

    AKG C535 is a great hi-hat mic and can even work as a nice vocal mic as well.

  • Re: PM5D Clipping at -12

    Ryan Lantzy wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 12:29



    I know for certain this was the case on the specific Soundcraft I once owned.


    index.php/fa/32358/0/



    Looking at that chart if looks to me like the buses are at unity gain, but whatever... there are almost as many internal gain structures as console companies, and I have personally used several different variants myself depending on things like target application and number of inputs.

    JR

  • Re: Don't give yourself away!

    Adam Schaible wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 21:44

    Randall Cook wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 15:10

    Adam Schaible wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 15:07

    I don't think most of us aspire to be a kitchen remodeler...


    It's not always about what you aspire to be. There are many other variables that play into a person's "chosen" profession.


    This is what gets annoying, you're totally missing the point. Most people don't start a business and invest a bunch of cash with hopes they can earn as much as a kitchen remodeler. I understand we may not reach our 'goals' but that's a bad way to look at a business.

    I think what it is -- you're just not in business mode yet. Totally understandable.


    +1 Big Time!!

  • Re: compressor settings for drums

    No fan of SSL, is all. Sounds Sorta Lousy - to each his own though, ya know.

    IME, great drum sounds come from great sounding drums, and great drummers. If you feel like "blaming" that on SSL (or any other piece of gear) I won't argue, but I also know better.

  • Re: Firefox crashing and burning?

    Geri O'Neil wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 13:10

    Thanx, Silas, I'll certainly try the safe mode option.

    The only thing I should have added is that in all cases, Firefox never shows up in the task windows when it says it's already open.

    Again, thanx for the help. I'll report the results later.

    Geri O


    It won't show up in the task window, but it will still show up as a process though under the processes tab as firefox.exe.

    I have actually had this happen when running bad or incompatible plugins. Have you tried slimming out the selection? I often have issues with the PDF reader plugin.

    I think the new FF beta allows you to launch the plugins as a separate process so they can be terminated without crashing the browser.

  • Re: compressor settings for drums

    Thom "Fig" Fiegle wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 12:29

    Robert "Void" Caprio wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 12:26

    and every great drum sound you've heard on records the last 25 or so years is probably because of the SSL.



    I think I'm gonna be sick.



    I don't mean all the sampled and replaced bull so prevalent today... I mean the real good drum sounds. Might have to go back further than 25 years but I'm talking about the Phil Collins/Hugh Padgham and related stuff. Listen to the drum sound on Julia Fordham's "Manhattan Skyline" for a good example.

  • Re: PM5D Clipping at -12

    John Roberts wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 16:49

    Ryan Lantzy wrote on Tue, 31 August 2010 15:09

    I thought that many analog consoles did this. I.e. having the summing busses -10 or -15 dB down from the next stage. I know some Soundcraft consoles have the input faders -10 from the groups and groups are -10 from the masters.



    Nah...While there are different strategies for managing bus headroom, Midas seems to be on their own little island when it comes to console metering. While I am a serious student of metering for consoles I never had a midas on the bench to figure out what exactly they were doing, nor did I ever feel compelled to.


    I know for certain this was the case on the specific Soundcraft I once owned.


    index.php/fa/32358/0/

  • Re: compressor settings for drums

    Robert "Void" Caprio wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 12:26

    and every great drum sound you've heard on records the last 25 or so years is probably because of the SSL.



    I think I'm gonna be sick.

  • Re: 01V96 Rack Mount

    i found an osp rack with a slant top for the mixer 6 spaces under the board , rack ears front and rear, deep enough to put rack gear on both sides for 199.00 shipped on ebay
    Kim

  • Re: compressor settings for drums

    Evan Kirkendall wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 11:54



    Drums are only short transients as is. If you're using a slow attack, what's left to compress? And, if your gate closes before the compressor kicks in, then what's the point? That snare is completely gone less then a second, so I feel like a quick attack is the only thing that gets the job done. A can see a little slower attack on toms to let that initial pop through. I'm not saying your idea sucks or is stupid, I just feel like it wouldn't be effective. I'd love to hear a sample of what you end up with.

    I'm all about fast attack/release. But, I also mix a modern pop rock band, and go for that modern sound.


    Evan


    All that is of course true but I hear significant differences using different attack times. You do too right? If you like the pop of the toms with a slower attack why is that not relevant to the kick and snare as well? I don't just randomly set the AT time, I mess with it to get it to groove just right. I usually use the comps on the groups of the drums in parallel with the source, which is often gated. Coming from a studio background I guess I use comps a bit more than a strict live guy but since I am almost always complimented on my drum sounds (live and in the studio) I guess I'm doing something right. I'll post some samples soon. Personally I would love to see SSL come out with a live console with the "G" series module in it (haven't had a chance to rock with the plug ins yet). Those dynamics rock, and every great drum sound you've heard on records the last 25 or so years is probably because of the SSL.

  • Re: Fiberglass for speaker cabs

    Painting a box white will look good for the first show. After that, it's going to show scuffs and marks pretty quickly. Instead, look at getting slip covers made for your speakers. Relatively inexpensive, and you can get any color you want. They can even make 'rat fur' look good.

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