Reply posted by themixfix
“This is a bit off the subject, but I had an engineer tell me that he thinks the guitar on Beatles recordings is weak. I couldn't believe this! Let's look and the chain: George Harrison, John Lennon and Paul Mac--Rickenbacher, Gibson, Fender, Hofner--Vox--U47tube--EMI/Telefunken tube console--Studer J37. Yep that's a recipe for bad sound.”

Yeah, so I'd like to hear HIS *GREAT* guitar sounds/recordings!!

With him using, oh, like, 10 pedals, preamp gain controls on the amps (IF, he even uses amps!! ), AND I'm sure he just SUCKS, as an *Engineer*, anyway!!

1st recorded feedback EVER, was Lennon, on I Feel Fine!! The Rick 12-String stuff was REVOLUTIONARY!! Paperback Writer’s guitar sounds kick ass; it's just hard to tell, especially by lame ass, limp dicks like Mr. *Cut and Paste*, since they are like, 3rd generation down, and one needs EARS, and the ability to distingush shit from shine-ola to have a clue!! Rain, and She Said, She Said have BAD guitar sounds? ? Let's not even get into any backwards guitar stuff!!

That jerk should keep using his POD, Amp Farm, or Line 6 (Presets, anyone? ) to get some REAL cool guitar sounds on Pro Tools for the 'Boy Bands' he records, who love the 'NOW' sound he gets for them, and then go fuck them up the ass when he's done being so original and creative!!

Bob Buontempo.


Reply posted by chessparov
To calm things down let's talk about Beatlemania instead!

BTW, love the books by Bruce Spizer on their Capitol recordings (haven't seen his V-Jay one yet).

In my acapella subculture we'd call Paul, George's, and Ringo's voices "mellow" in tone. John would be classed as "brassy". Neither type is better than the other, however, we'd tend to have a voice like John's on rockers, then have the others sing lead on ballads or stacked together in harmony BG. The John/Paul combo made for a great one-two rock punch though, ala Sam and Dave, Righteous Brothers, etc. (Not that Paul can't rock or John couldn't croon!)

Chris


Reply posted by h_steve
“How have the Fab Four recordings helped you to make better recordings? Are there any specific techniques you picked up?”

1. A frequency range for every part and every part in its frequency range. Listen to any Beatles song with their "typical" instrumentation' two guitars, bass and drums. Now try to determine the frequency range of the two guitar parts; 9 times out of 10, you will hear NOTHING below 320hz or so.

Didja ever wonder how Paul's bass parts could be so clear, distinct and loud when he had NO high end on the bass at all? It was because there were no guitar parts competing in his range. From 40hz to 200-something hz was all Paul's.

Finally, Ringo's drums sound percussive, not like "Thor's Hammer" or some other "Thunder of the Gods" nonsense.

Add all of this up and you get a place for everything and everything in its place. It won't solve all of your problems, but you might be surprised at how many problems it can solve.

Steve


Reply posted by lory
Good points. Now a Beatles question (this thread should never die, BTW): Until about 1970, George Harrison was an awesome rockabilly guitarist who came through time and time again under the greatest pressure possible. What made him all but give up his incredibly inventive and appropriate rockabilly licks for the rest of his life (I don't have the answer - I'm asking!) For that matter, how come almost every lead if not every lead he ever played from 1970 on is a slide guitar part?

Anyone a big enough Beatles freak to answer this one?


Reply posted by nightshade
Maybe a lack of tunes screamin' for it?


Reply posted by lorry
Well, if you were in a band called the Traveling Wilburys, do you think there might be one or two tunes that called for something besides slide guitar?

I guess I'll rephrase the question to delete the word "rockabilly." Cause unlike keith Richards, George also stopped playing the Chuck Berry riffs he absolutely excelled at.

Basically he had all kinds of stuff in his arsenal. And then he just had slide guitar.

Maybe the Krishna thing?

I'm really not trying to rag on the dead, I'm just curious if anyone has any insight why it all became slide guitar. BTW, last time we were in the car, my 12 year old daughter made me play While My Guitar Gently Weeps five times in a row!


Reply posted by nightshade
That girl's got TASTE!

Who knows, really? All the Beatles lamed out without each other's company. I know what you mean though, exactly.

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