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Topic posted by alphajerk

So my last mix went out to the mastering people last week by choice of the artist/client. I heard back that they thought the mixes were too squashed/squished.... something, I am hearing this through my client. The client is fine with the mixes but was wondering if I could take off the buss compression for mastering. Unfortunately I can’t unless my client wants to fully remix the album since I mixed to the comp/limiter. I could reduce the GR, I suppose and give it some more dynamic range... but I like it like it is.

I don’t think it sounds too squashed at all.... no pumping, just kinda loud but there are some dynamics... the meters certainly arent pegged from beginning to end and they move with the beat. really, I don’t hear anything with the mixes that I want the mastering person to change unless there is some odd EQ problem I missed... I really just want them to trim tips and tails, and do fadeouts, SRC, dither, and sequence with better equipment than I have.

So I’m supposed to call the mastering guy monday to find out what the deal is...

I do have some full 16/44.1 versions on my server but are the version previous to the final versions... well, one got changed the other didnt really.

So what should I say with the mastering person on Monday? I’m kinda thinking it might be one of those things where they dont feel like they are having to use the compressor kinda thing. I talked to a couple people who have versions of the mixes i have been doing and dont think its squashed either... or at least not offensively.


Reply posted by bblackwood

Why not post a link so we can have a listen for ourselves?

If you and your client are happy with the mixes, then I'd tell the mastering guy to deal with it. As a mastering engineer, my job is to help the client realize their goals, not mine...

Brad Blackwood
Mastering Engineer
www.ardentstudios.com

Reply posted by alphajerk

http://www.alphajerk.com/livingroom/i_got_hope.aif-26MB

http://www.alphajerk.com/livingroom/last_man.aif-33MB

These are FULL versions, not MP3.

I know the first [I got hope] has a bit of verb on it, but that’s on purpose since it was the one tune that I was able to take that allowance... the rest of the album is fairly dry. The second [last man on the moon] changed a bit from this version with the level of the acoustic was made a little lower and the solo section was worked out a little better dealing with the slide mandolin part. But they are basically about as "squashed" as these.

Unfortunately I didnt track this project, just mixed it so any comments on tones is sometimes beyond my control [kick and bass I was fairly unhappy with] and should of been better conceived in tracking.

I’m just looking to hear from all if these sound too squashed and if i should back off the 2-buss comp and resend them new versions. What I DONT want to happen is back off the tracks so they can compress it in mastering. ya know? Like if I back off the tracks... that’s where they will STAY.




 

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