Reply posted by Clarke on March 07, 2001
Hi Mike,

Just to echo a few of the other posts, I would recommend a smaller diaphragm for overheads, especially for live use. Unless you aren't close micing the toms and such, and need the OH to pick them up, large diaphragm condensers will tend to pick up a lot of unwanted other stuff, particularly on a loud stage.

For other (off-topic) purposes, I really like a pair of 414's over a kit or as room mics (oops, I gave it away). The SM-81 comes to mind immediately, and if that's out of reach, you may consider the SM-94 - a close second in the Shure line. The C-3000 works well in acoustic or jazz situations where the stage volume is minimal.

As far as kick goes, I'll second the vote on the M-88. Hands down, it's my favorite and I've used all the other mics you've listed too. IMHO, it's got a tighter bottom end than the E-602 (which I feel sometimes is too boomy, if you can imagine that) and it has a smoother low-midrange tailoring than a D112 or B52, which is to say it doesn't sound "boxy". Pretty descent attack as well, but not "clicky", like a SM/Beta 91.

Again, just my experiences. To each his or her own. YMMV.

Clarke

Reply posted by Paul Babikian on March 07, 2001
I'm surprised no one mentioned the ATMpro25. I'm not really an Audio Technica fan but that's a good sounding kick mic...especially for the $$$.

Pauly

Reply posted by Pat O. on March 07, 2001
Cheers Mike.....

See if you can get ahold of a Beyerdynamic M-88 and use IT for kick....very "tight" sound and will hold high SPL rather well..we swear by them.

Overheads, well.....the SHURE KSM-32 is my favorite. Little better high end response than the AKG 3000....altho we use them as well..

Good luck!

Pat O
Honolulu

Reply posted by Jim Travis on March 07, 2001
I vote for RE20 or Beta 52 on kick. To me, the 52 sounds like the RE20 with eq built-in.
I like AKG414's for OH's if you've got the bucks, or Shure SM81's.

Reply posted by shawn on March 07, 2001
Beta 91 - use it - you will not go back.

Shawn

Reply posted by Carl Updegraff on March 07, 2001
Personally I love my e602...

So let's talk about overhead mics. It's a misnomer. You don't REALLY get an increased sensitivity or response from a large diaphragm...It's completely in the design of the mic, but smaller diaphragm mics usually are more accurate in the higher registers...

You can equate it to speakers...You don't want a .5-in diaphragm reproducing 20hz, do you?

Well, I don't want a 18-in cone reproducing 16Khz...

Get it?

Carl

Reply posted by Mike H on March 07, 2001
Hey Mike -
If you have the opportunity, try the Shure Beta 91. I used this mic at The Beer Barrel ( Put-In-Bay, Ohio ) on what would be at best a "B" system and it was the best a kick drum had ever sounded through that system. If you don't want any presence on your kick , use an EV 868. I can't get any slap out of that mic. My .02

Reply posted by Bob Chadderdon on March 07, 2001
Did you try the 868 in the drum, on a pillow like those engineer-geeks at EV suggested? The "slap" should be adjustable by moving the mic in relation to the beater.

And no, I don't work for EV (any longer ;} )

Bob