Reply Posted by Chris Wood on December 26, 2001
Excellent job with the article mate. It's great that you've taken
the time to put this up for us. And well done a successful project.
One question I have, though, is regarding the amount of outer-jacket
you stripped back. Are using a big chunky strain relief to hold
on to the jacket or is the cable-clamp holding onto the inner cores
as it appears in your photos? I can't help but think that, while
it makes assembly easier, if this were the case it would leave the
cores a little more vulnerable to stress at the entrance to the
connector?
Just a wonderance...
Chris Wood
Reply Posted by Kurt shetler on December 26, 2001
: One question I have, though, is regarding the amount of
outer-jacket you stripped back. Are using a big chunky strain
relief to hold on to the jacket or is the cable-clamp holding
onto the inner cores as it appears in your photos?
I was worried about the same thing. It would have been very nice
if I could have stripped back just enough of the thick outer jacket
so that the cable clamp on the hood would clamp around the outer
jacket when the hood and connector are mated.
Unfortunately, what I found is that the IJIS cable is very hard
to work with in short lengths (<1"). The 90 pin Elco hood
I used doesn't allow much clearance from the cable clamp to the
first row of pins. So what I ended up doing is stripping back
several inches of the outer jacket. This makes stripping and crimping
the core wire much more feasable.
Right after I cut the snake I slid a 12" piece of heavy-duty
heat shrink down towards the fan tail. My end solution will be
to replace the outer jacket that I had stripped away (I kept it)
once I had verified all my connections. I'm going to wrap the
removed piece of outer jacket around the core wire, secure it
with some electrical tape, and slide the heat shrink up over the
assembly all they way into the hood.
The cable clamp will then have a heat shrink secured outer jacket
to bite, protecting the inner core from wear and tear. The outer
jacket will run all they way into the hood and should look very
nice.
Again, a good photo would clear this up, but I am on holiday,
away from my beloved hobby. :(
I chose not to heat shrink the connector until I've verified
every single (+), (-), and ground connection from box end to fan
tail. I'm sure I've screwed something up along they way and I'd
hate to have to pull it apart to swap two pins!
I'm planning on adding a "Show and Tell - part II"
as soon as I get back.
Thanks for the positive feedback!
Kurt
Reply Posted by Joules on December 27, 2001
Hi Kurt.
Here's a neat trick I use in such situations.
1 Strip about 2 to 3 inches of the outer jacket off and slide
about 2 inch of adhesive lined heat shrink over the multicore
2 Find a way to grip that little bit of striped cable without
damaging it. Usually a vice with some kind of protection.
3 Pull back on the outer jacket with moderate force sliding
your hands for about 10 to 15 ft down the multicore. Do this
3 or 4 times, and you should have about 8 inch of exposed tails
4 Using some kind of clamping device, either a hose clip, or
even a set of vise grips, clamp the outer jacket in place
5 Apply connector
6 When finished, release the clamp and pull the outer jacket
back well into the connector shell. Then put the 2 inch of adhesive
lined heat shrink where the strain relief will go, and apply
heat.
7 Tighten those screws down well
You will now have an extremely strong connection to the outer
jacket, and there will be approx 1 inch too much outer jacket
on the cable. This will prevent the jacket from trying to creep
out of the strain relief over time.
Good work on the tutorial though. No, Very good work.
If you think a pin under the fingernail is bad, I stuck a 5mm
drill under mine (Sideways) two weeks ago, it went clean through
to the other side. I guess that's what you get for making flight
cases till the small hours. I felt quite sick.
I bet your next attempt at a multipin will be almost perfect.
All the best
Joules
Reply "**Blush**" Posted by Timothy J. Trace on December
25
Kurt, thanks for the props.
By the looks of things, you've done an excellent job!
One more little thing (they just keep coming and coming, don't
they?)...I use a short little piece of shrinkwrap, I think 1/8"
diameter by 1/4" length, over each white inner jacket right
where it's cut back to expose the conductors and the drain. This
holds the other end of the drain shrinkwrap in place, which in my
eyes is important in preventing any possible contact between drains.
Oh, yes, that *was* a hard, ugly lesson I learned about the drains
in an Elco connector. You bet I'll do anything to preempt a reoccurrence.
Merry Christmas!
Tim ==
Reply "Congrats." Posted by Matt Ruggeri on December
28
Nice Work Dude! I've built quite a few at the Company I worked
for, but now I'm making them on my own at home! Nice Pics, Nice
Job! you did everything properly, and neat. One suggestion (something
that really has helped me) is to get 2 Vices, (panavise, or something
equivalent) one to hold the cable in place, and another to hold
the Elco while you insert the pins.
One other thing I do is to put a small piece of shrink tube over
the + - and ground, after I shrink wrap the ground, this keeps the
ground from backing out.
I like the 'Bic' Trick, i've honestly never seen that before, (kinda
embarrasing after 30+ snakes!).
I'm one of those people that does everything in steps, all the
stripping at once, then all the heatshrinking, then on to the crimping,
etc... Oh, and I NEVER seal it all up until I test every connection!
Very nice work, and great pics as well. I've been wanting to put
some of my Custom Snake pics as a tutorial/show-off on my website.
Reply "They are metal shells" Posted by Kurt Shetler
on December
: Fantastic picture article. I vote for this to go in the study
hall as well. I would add that one should use the metal shells and
not the plastic ones for durability and shielding's sake. Also,
the strain relief can be oriented either for side entry or top entry
on the metal shells, depending on your needs.
The hoods I used are metal. I didn't see any hoods listed at Bi-Tronics
that had rear exits. I'm not sure how the draw-tight screw would
work in that situation. ??
: If this will be reformated for the study hall, you might want
to include pin orientation diagrams for both the male and female
connectors, as well as part numbers for the elcos, as there are
all kinds of different variations to these connectors. I follow
the whirlwind standard, though there are other standards out there
as well. Excellent work!
Thanks! It was both fun and frustrating. I'd be happy to add pin
diagrams or whatever else would be required to post to study hall.
Reply "Re: They are metal shells" Posted by Arthur
on December 25, 2001
Actually, with what I saw in the picture you provided, you can
orient the cable exit either way. You accomplish this by taking
apart the metal shell itself (the 3 screws on the side), and changing
the orientation of the strain relief to your liking. With the
top cable exit, yes it will require a bit more "finger action"
to rotate the draw-tight screw, but is useful in those few situations
where you need to make it happen that way (like in a floorbox).
95% of the Elcos I have done are side entry strain relief configurations.
Reply "Now I get it." Posted by Kurt Shetler on
December 25, 2001
I was trying to figure out why the hood had the removable strain
relief. I thought it was to make cable assembly easier (which
it does). I can see now that you could remove the strain relief
piece, turn it 180 degrees, and now the cable will exit from
one side of the rear.
See, that's why I come here. Somebody always has a good idea.
Thanks!
Kurt
Reply "But you did it the best way (IMHO)" Posted
by Geri O on December 25, 2001
I've done Elco/EDACs both ways, down exit and side exit and
I believe that the down exit is easier on the cable as it's
hanging down. Good job, great pics!
Geri O
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