Posted by Ed on August 29, 2002

I could agree with you except this is one owner who wasn't cheap just very naive and trusting. First he trusted mr local music shop owner to sell him quality at a decent price. (2 single 15 sound tech tops with subs. total, not per side for several thousand.)Then he payed Mega Guitar for a decent rig at a very decent price and trusted bands to come in and set it up and use it.

Big mistake, every time we came in we had to rewire everything. So finally he trusts someone else to suggest an "engineer" that he could pay to run things right. Oops, he blows everthing up and clears a packed bar out at Midnight on a Friday. Sorry to say this is the right owner doing everything wrong. I can tell you have a bug up, you know, about owners and I've met a lot of them, but this guy isn't cheap and he's a nice guy to boot.


Posted by David B. Little on August 29, 2002

Yeah Ed, I guess the bug in my ass did show through. My opinion is probably skewed because I see that same thing happening in clubs that book regional, national and international acts. And yes, I have lost a few long term house gigs because of that kind of erroneous thinking. I would imagine if Chris Mitchell were to chime in here he can give you an opinion based on his first hand experiences in Chattanooga TN.

I still can't decide whether I want to go see Victor Wooten tonight - the system provided will be two old SP2 and 4 CV earthquakes of unknown age and loading.

dbl

Posted by Gary Callender on August 29, 2002

Hi Ed,

I was wondering when you would show up here {grin}

A couple of years ago,in a club close to your home town,I had one of our(4) EV subs catch on fire.Lucky it was the last song :) After a discussion with the EV techs and some investigation it was found to be a pinched speaker cable at the root of the problem,or at least that is the only thing I could attribute it to and I went through EVERYTHING even rechecking the gain structure on the system to make sure it was correct.

Anyway we put it out with a pitcher of water(after unpluging and pulling it to the middle of the dance floor)amidst a bunch of intoxicated chaps oohs & ahhhs.There was another post awhile back about the same thing and,if I recall correctly,it was about EV's also!

Regards,
Gates:>)


Posted by Mikael Holm on August 29, 2002

I have seen cheap Eminences catch a fire because of DJs. I have also seen some aluminium cones melting under heavy use (yes, Hartke Systems bass cabinet)

Miffe


Posted by Warren on August 29, 2002

When I visited the JBL factory they had an endurance test room where they ran speakers at full volume for days. They said that sometimes a speaker will catch on fire and they have to wheel it outside on a hand truck. Of course the sheer SPL in the place is pretty impressive. The amp room generates a lot of heat too.

Warren


Posted by Chris D on August 28, 2002

I have never personally had that happen with "pro" gear but years ago an old Technics receiver I had lit up a small pair of Rat Snack speaks (voice coils glowing through fabric grille). Tweeters burned out and 8" woofers sustained but then again it was only a 40W/Ch economy home system.
I have seen that happen twice with other people's pro gear too.

Once at a small local concert outdoors and once at a wedding reception. You should have seen the musicians scurry to carry out the speakers... Two were smoking and one had fire coming out of the ports! The subs seemed okay though....must have been the serarate amp circuit.

The photographer was even getting in on the action! In all three occurences the sound was "distorted" in some odd way or another well before the smoke appeared.

Chris