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Live Chat with Mixerman April 18, 2002 Moderated
by Chris Kathman | 

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Moderator: Why can't you punch accurately on the Ampex?
Mixerman:
They have a severe delay time. The in-point isn't bad, but the out is like a 1/4
of a second. I was recording John Robbinson at Cello once in those machines, and
it was a bitch. The time signatures were changing every bar from 5/4 to 6/4 to
9/8 to 5/4 to 4/4 - it was ridiculous.
Mixerman (continued): JR was amazing,
but he was sight-reading, and I had to punch him in really tight spots. At one
point he just screamed "WHY CAN"T THEY GET A FUCKING 827 IN HERE!"
And for this particular exercise we probably should have. Unfortunately, I didn't
know that the music was going to be like this, and neither did he.
MMazurek:
I know ya like to throw a 2-buss comp on early sometimes, what are some of your
favorites for rock-n-roll?
Mixerman: I like two, but I use the SSL compressor,
currently. I like the sound of it in combination with the Neve consoles. I don't
mind, in fact I like, VCA's on the entire mix. It gives kind of a sheen to the
mix. If I'm mixing on an SSL, I'd rather use something like a Cranesong STC-8
or a Neve 33609.
blairl: In your opinion do any of these newer, cheaper
microphones that are supposed to "emulate" vintage Neumann, etc., any
good?
Mixerman: I haven't done extensive A/B testing of any of them - I
really haven't even heard very many, so I'd probably do best not trying to answer
that.
Pro Jules: That Euphonix
R1 is supposed to be the shit - Michael Wagner is happy with his
Mixerman:
Bully for Michael...
MadMoose: What's your favorite automation system?
Any preference on moving fader vs. VCA?
Mixerman: Hmmm
Well, I like
aspects of both. If I had my druthers, I think I'd go with Flying Faders automation.
But I like the aspect of being able to ride on top of rides in an SSL. But I really
am not happy mixing on those consoles. So Flying Faders it is.
I think
FF is the most intuitive of all the automation systems. Very easy to use. Very
fast.
nick/d: Do you regard panning more as a tool for separation and clarity
within a mix or as one for recreating a real-life "scene" i.e., a band
playing in front of you?
Mixerman: It depends. It really depends on the
production. Sometimes I want to crate a realistic landscape. Usually, I just want
to get shit out of the way of the vocal.
Another Dave: Is it wrong to think
that all recording guys are anal-retentive candy-ass nancy-boy Prima Donnas?
Mixerman:
LOL. I think most are, actually. Not me, of course...
master_man: Do you
prefer mixing on 'home-styled' monitors (like NS-10s) or something more hi-fi,
with faster bass?
Mixerman: It's a problem actually. I've mixed on NS10's
for so long that I have trouble finding mid field monitors that I like. Plus,
moving around from studio to studio just makes it hard. I really like mixing on
Tannoy Super Golds with Doug
Sax crossovers. But I don't have my own pair. I just heard a pair that I like
a lot, but I can't even tell you the make of them. I'm considering buying them
LOL - if I can figure out what the hell they were.
Mixerman (continued):
I really like the midrange of NS10's. I'm still using them and I can still get
parts, but the writing is on the wall. It's time to learn a new set of monitors.
That's
hard.
rickpowell: How do you get electric guitars out of the way of a vocal?
My last record had an excess of 2.5k junk that made for an irritating mix, but
when I tried to dial it out, they seemed to lose their edge.
Mixerman:
Thats hard for me to answer without hearing what's going on. Perhaps you
need to make the vocal warmer to compensate for the edgy guitars.
StoMo:
Are there styles of music you particularly look forward to mixing - or perhaps
artists you look forward to mixing? Can you even generalize about this?
Mixerman:
I look forward to mixing music that inspires me. That's about all I can ask for.
To
be honest, it's usually the smaller indie projects that inspire me. These I usually
do for considerably less than my going rate. But I choose them based on the music.
So if someone sends me an unmixed album of tracks that I love, then I let them
make me an offer and decide whether I can do it. Or if the music perhaps doesn't
inspire me as much as I thought... The people are usually nicer and much more
appreciative at this level. I'd rather make a tiny record with someone I like
than a multi-platinum selling record with someone I don't like.
frankrizzo:
MM... what kind of volumes do you work at when you're: A) recording, and B) mixing?
Mixerman:
All volumes. I need to know what a mix does loud, but there is a point of too
loud, especially in NS10's. Once I get things pumping and I'm trying to get arrangements
together. I'm usually monitoring pretty quietly. Then I go back to semi loud.
Rock-n-roll was designed to be listened to loud, so it has to work that way.
dave-G:
How many points should a mixer get on a record? What should the "norm"
be?
Mixerman: A mixer should get 1 point on a record. This is by no means
an industry standard. If you are a mixer highly in demand, they'll pay the point.
If you're not, they won't. Sometimes I get a point, sometimes I don't. Points
are as good as monopoly money unless it's a hit.
Moderator: Would be out
of line for me to ask you what a couple of your favorite records you have ever
mixed are?
Mixerman: It wouldn't be out of line... to ask it.
master_man:
Do you think it's a good idea for neophyte mixers to print versions without buss
compression so the mastering engineer can decide what's best?
Mixerman:
LOL
still laughing
No. Mixing is about taking chances, it's not about
being safe. Compression changes balances in a drastic way. If you're providing
an uncompressed version of the mix in hopes that the mastering engineer can provide
you with better compression, then you are looking for a crapshoot.
Mixerman
(continued): If I touch the threshold on my 2-buss compressor in the slightest
bit, it completely throws the whole mix out of whack. As a mixer, you need to
mix aggressively and with purpose. This isn't guesswork. The mix is the final
presentation of the production. So you really want to leave that up to chance?
Any mastering engineer that wants an uncompressed mix actually wants to be a mixer.
drumsound:
Do you listen much to things you have done in the past?
Mixerman: Occasionally.
I'll usually reference a room with that last thing I mixed, and a few choice selections,
just because I know them so well. I'm trying to get an idea of what the room is
doing to the sound of the speakers. But I don't really listen to entire albums
that I've done. My wife does though.
frankrizzo: Have you had your ears
checked for frequency loss?
Mixerman: Yes. I have none. My ears are fine.
The large majority of guys that mix big records these days have severe hearing
loss. I'm not quite sure that's an issue. As to my ears, I have them tested every
year.
Moderator: That's it! This has been a production of Universal Concept,
Inc. On behalf of PSW, I'd like to thank Mixerman for sharing his time and opinions
with us
chat.boy: Tonight's chat was moderated by the one and only Chris
Kathman, or C.K. to the roadies.
Mixerman: Thanks everyone.
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